LATEST: CASE RELATED TO MODERATION HAS BEEN REFERRED TO LARGER BENCH (CONSTITUTION BENCH), WHICH MIGHT COMPRISE HONORABLE THE CHIEF JUSTICE OF PATNA HIGH COURT AS WELL AS TWO OR MORE OTHER JUDGES.
After a long period of hearing, Honorable Justice Dr. Ravi Ranjan has reserved the judgment of the case related to 53-55th combined competitive mains examination moderation. It was a marathon hearing of almost 15 days. According to the advocate of students Shri Dinu Kumar, who challenged the moderation, case looks like in a favour of students. However it is yet uncertain what judgment will be delivered by Honorable Justice. But at the last day of hearing, BPSC’s advocate and advocate general of Bihar Government Shri Lalit Kishore failed to present any factual basis and proofs in support of BPSC’s moderation process. Despite repeatedly asked to present the methodology on which moderation was done, BPSC counsel didn’t present the methodology applied. It was clear that either BPSC didn’t follow any method or it didn’t want to disclose publically which is obviously strange. Finally Honorable Justice asked Dinu Kumar whether whole mains examination should be cancelled? However before Dinu Kumar could reply, Justice Dr. Ravi Ranjan said that since process had gone at the extent of interview level, hence it would not be wise to cancel the whole examination. He was little in dilemma as well in a tough position, which he clearly elaborated, but he said that he would do something and find a way which might be a middle path.
Well, this is the situation at present. It is true that
publishing of final result has not been stayed. But, at the same time Honorable
Judge said that if decision goes against the commission, then whole
result, if published, will be quashed. However BPSC's counsel Lalit Kishore said that result will not be published until case is disposed off.
It is strange that when interview was going on, students
demanded to stay the process until case is disposed off, but Dr. Ravi Ranjan
said that no need to stay since commission would not publish the result before
disposal of case. Even BPSC counsel agreed with the judge. Let us wait whether
oral order is followed or not.
Now going through the whole process and hearing, it is quite
clear that BPSC is in defensive mood. During whole hearing process, either BPSC
counsel took Passover or said that it had followed UPSC, KPSC, MPSC. However
the counsel also said that UPSC process was not followed completely. Honorable
Justice Ravi Ranjan asked BPSC repeatedly that just you were saying that you
had followed a-b-c-d, but didn't elaborate what you had done? Even at one point of
time Honorable Justice commented that BPSC moderation was like “ a farmer is in Punjab and child bore by a letter.” On 6th July,
2013 Honorable Justice passed a written order and asked BPSC that whether that
had followed UPSC moderation or not? But once again BPSC counsel repeated what
he had said in earlier hearings. One of the students group advocate Shri Y.V. Giri said that Honorable Patna High Court Double bench had clearly said that rule regarding scaling should be framed within six months, but BPSC didn't make a rule. It is clearly breach of justice and hence whole moderation should be sidelined. Honorable Justice was agree with Girijee and noted some points on his logic. Honorable Justice Dr. Ravi Ranjan clearly said that BPSC moderation is bogus.
So present scenario could be described as “wait and watch.” According to BPSC fighter group (those fighting against moderation) they are hoping a positive outcome, however not a complete outcome according to their wishes. Yet something is better than nothing. But in the whole proceeding, BPSC moderation’s limitations were exposed. One expects fair play from a constitutional body like BPSC. But only constitutional tag attached doesn’t guarantee fair play. We shouldn't forget that currently one former chairman and two former members of BPSC are in the Jail for malpractices. We shouldn’t also forget that Karnataka Public Service Commission’s recruitment process is under scanner and is being investigated by CID. BPSC is saying that it has followed Karnataka moderation. What conclusion one can draw from this whole process? You can’t follow quite defined formula of scaling which is followed by all Hindi belt State Public Service Commissions but you are presenting the example of Karnataka which process is under scanner. Decision might go one way or other way but constitutional body like BPSC shouldn’t runway from its responsibilities in the age of right to information.
So present scenario could be described as “wait and watch.” According to BPSC fighter group (those fighting against moderation) they are hoping a positive outcome, however not a complete outcome according to their wishes. Yet something is better than nothing. But in the whole proceeding, BPSC moderation’s limitations were exposed. One expects fair play from a constitutional body like BPSC. But only constitutional tag attached doesn’t guarantee fair play. We shouldn't forget that currently one former chairman and two former members of BPSC are in the Jail for malpractices. We shouldn’t also forget that Karnataka Public Service Commission’s recruitment process is under scanner and is being investigated by CID. BPSC is saying that it has followed Karnataka moderation. What conclusion one can draw from this whole process? You can’t follow quite defined formula of scaling which is followed by all Hindi belt State Public Service Commissions but you are presenting the example of Karnataka which process is under scanner. Decision might go one way or other way but constitutional body like BPSC shouldn’t runway from its responsibilities in the age of right to information.
Here are the possibilities now:
- Whole result will be quashed: (unlikely scenario since Judge said that pass students interest should also be minded)
- Petitioners will be allowed: (Unlikely since final result is yet to be published and overlooking higher marks is not possible)
- Result will be published without moderation and those coming above earlier cut off will be called for interview: (Most likely scenario)
- Petition will be dismissed: (Unlikely since Honorable Judge has said that bpsc didn’t followed the procedures, it was on wrong foot, BPSC’s fault has been exposed and proved)
- Scaling should be followed instead of moderation (Quite unlikely since it will revamp whole result).
One is free to take position in this scenario. Decision is likely to be delivered next week. Till then wait and guess.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 770 of 770one news I am going to share here: The demand of intervener (those passed in mains examination to bebcome party in PT case) was rejected today by the Honorable Judge. They wanted to become petitioner in the case.
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bhai aap sb ke comment se bat spst nhi ho pa rhi hai
Tomorrow (30-7-2013) BPSC PT case is first case in Justice Navaniti Prasad bench.
data mining group kichh batayiye
bpsc = kumi public service commission
bpsc = kurmi public service commissio
rajesh bihari ka abhuwadan kabul ho
dekhiye aaj ayog se na koi bhul ho
Abhiwadan Kabul kia, ab du ek bat bataye,
Jisko likhna ho dohawali, wo vani prakashan jaye.
bhai mahaku ram ji kya bat kahi.mai galti kahi ye bat v sahi.lo isi bat pe ek aur slam rahi
any update regarding today's case.plzzzzzzzzzzzzz share
koi news bhai log
wait for monday now.
Aaj ke hearing me judje sahab ne kaha ki uppsc tatha any jagah par reservation ke karan jo result radd hua hai uska copy court me Monday ko de tatha bpsc ko kaha ki reservation hatane ke bad larko ke result ka swarup hoga uska calculations kar ke de .aage Monday ko
PT वाले केस की अगली सुनवाई अब अगले सोमवार को होगी !जज साहेब कोई संतुलित रास्ता निकलने का प्रयास कर रहें हैं .....बीच का रास्ता शायद निकला जायेगा ......bpsc से कुछ डाटा माँगा गया है ...तबतक सभी पक्ष धैर्य रखें और दूसरों को भी धैर्य दें !
Good Morning Niraj Jee,
Kya ap batayenge ye PT case wala pura mamla kya hain, Case ka asli mudda kya hain.....Mujhe kuch samajh me nahi aa raha hain.....I AM waiting for your reply....Thank You
According to the Supreme Court judgment, PT is a screening test. Hence no reserved candidates will find place in general in PT qualified candidates. It means number of students qualified will be according to the reservation percentage. 50% general, 25% OBC and so on. Their cut off in PT will be according to the marks of respective category. Only in interview those reserved students whose marks are more or equal to general cut off will be counted in general, but not at PT stage. In this scenario also different cut off will emerge. In UP this rule is followed.
Today Justice Navaniti Prasad asked BPSC to tell category wise number of students qualified in preliminary examination. However Lalit Kishore shows inability to tell. This is the matter as I know.
ye sala mc bc navnitiya aur lalitwa bhosadi wala hai........in kutto ka kya jata hai sala inke bich pis to nirapradh log hi hai.....inke bete betiyo ka mamla hota to pata chalta
narendra modi jindabad. jai bhumihar.
kuch ladkon ke muh se lar tapak raha hai ki pt cancel hoga phir se mains hoga. aachi baat hai agar ish pe koi khush ho raha hi to usse gadhha koi nahi hai. agar phir se pt mains dena hi hai to agla vacency aata aur usme pt mains de deta. aisa nahi hai in ladkon ka ghar hi court hai. koi kah raha hai ki main itna tez huin mera kyon nahi hua. tez hona kya mota hone ke barabar hai ki apna weight kar liye ki main itna kilo ka huin.ratish jee ne in frustu logon ko ek plateform uplabhad karwa diya hai. ratish jee ke blog ko main suru se hi follow kar raha huin mughe ye sharam laga tha ki mains paas karnewalon ke liye ek bhi prasansa ka sabad jha jee ke muh se nahi nikla . ye sada apna frustation nikalte rahe. agr aapme frustation tha to wo blog pe nahi nikalte kyonki inka blog sabhi padhta hai. ye sada hi ekpachiya baat bolte rahe.ratish jee kam se kam aap ispe apna comment digiye ki aap itna ekpachiya soch kyon rakhte hai.aap frustu group/fighter group ke pravakta ki tarah kyon bolte hain.
are lottery lottorey ka ratt laga rakha tune...........abhi waqt kharab hai.....to tu free hai kuch nhi kahne ke liye.
लाटरी हटाओ देश बचाओ tum to apne aap se tez ho gaye hao. agar tez ho to abhi kya kar rahe ho. jo aadmi nich hota hai wo apne aap ko tez kahta hai. tum kisi kaam ke nahi ho. tum agle bpsc me bhi itna hi chillaoge. apna common sence lagao mr. jai bhumihar.
jai bhumihar.
Ram ram bhai,
Aaj ka din special soch litti-bhanta banwaya tha par hamka Jane ki e judge Sab apna kam chhod mediator ban jayega Sab....badi bhanta gol h bhailog. Aa ye Rajiv bhai e sathi mitra friend etc kaun h ho....e bhi koi nam h.kahe 42, se e ladka case lad raha h....Isko kuchh bhumi de do bhumihar bhai...h..h...
50% seat general nahi unresevered hota hai.yahi niyam UPSC follow karta hai.lekin ek candidate ek bar bhi reserve category ka fayda lega to lastly reserve catogary me uska selection hota hai.yahi sahi bhi hai.UP me last stage me reservation milta hai.jise badlakar tino charan me kiya ja raha tha. par general catogary k ladko k babal k bad rajnitik nuksan dekhte hue faisle ko vapas le liya gaya.isliye mains ka result ayog ne court k faisle ane se pahle hi rudd kar diya.bihar sarkar yadi tino charno me reservation deti hai to BPSC ka result 100% sahi.
2610 me se 1000 ki lottery es bar lagegi.baki ki 56-57 BPSC me ,58-59 me. baki logo ka raveyya aesa hai ki wesab lottery bhi nahi kharid payege.
Moderation wale case ka kya hua?
Double bench me hearung suru huyi?
PT wale case me kitna dum hai? Kya mains fir se hoga? Kya bpsc aur high court mil kar jaan bujh kar Moderation wale case k litigants ko paresaan karne k liye PT wale case ko lamba kheench rahe hain?
Moderation wala case karne wale chhatron k liye kuaan aur khaayi wali stithi kyun banayi ja rahi hai? Ek taraf interview k result aa jane ka dar aur doosri taraf fir se mains karwane ka khatra.
Moderation wale case ka kya hua?
Double bench me hearung suru huyi?
PT wale case me kitna dum hai? Kya mains fir se hoga? Kya bpsc aur high court mil kar jaan bujh kar Moderation wale case k litigants ko paresaan karne k liye PT wale case ko lamba kheench rahe hain?
Moderation wala case karne wale chhatron k liye kuaan aur khaayi wali stithi kyun banayi ja rahi hai? Ek taraf interview k result aa jane ka dar aur doosri taraf fir se mains karwane ka khatra.
lado bhai tere bete ke kam aayega.tum bahut dino tak yad rakhe jaoge.tum mar k bhi amar ho jayoge.ham adhikari apke bete ko trained krenge .
Is desh ko hi bhang kar dena chahiye...1% se bhi kamlog is desh ko chala rahein hein aur sab milkar loot rahein hein. Bechare sidhe sadhe 99% log pis rahe hein. Ye 1% kutto kamino ko goli mar dena chahiye. Kya majak bana kar rakh diya hai system ko koi thik se kam nahi kar raha hai.....Judge ko case nahi samajh ata hai....chairman BPSC ko kya karna hai samajh mein nahi ata hai , kanhi se koi political will dikh nahi raha hai.....sab ke sab bekar ke log hein aur sidhe sadhe students pis rahein hein.....Judge ko pata nahi judge kisne bana diya usko do sal mein abhi tak case hi nahi samajh mein aya hai....kabhi kahta hai ae aam hai par rat mein judge saheb ko sapna ata hai ki aam nahi imli hai...phir judge saheb confuse ho jate hai aur ek saptah ka time le lete hein ye decide karne ke liye ki ki ye aam hai ya imli hai.....pata nahi ye chairman ko kya hua hai jab stay nahii hai to usko result dene mein kya jata hai...chote dil wale logon ko itna bada post dena hi nahi chahiye....pata nahi jo apne apko hi nahi samajh pate hein wo itne bade post pe kaise pahuch jate hai.....makhanbaji mein bahut dam hai
chhatth k bad hi result ayega.blogging se behtar hai aage ki taiyari ki yojna banao.
TOO TAK TOO TAK TUTIA
JUDGE & SAAHA CHU....
JB TAK RESULT NAHI AAYEGA HM TO EE HE GAATE RAHENGE BHAI...KONO K BURA LAGE YA BHALA,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Bhai ek Ajay Prasad hai, jo judge aur bpsc chairman ko ye keh rahe hai ki wo clerk banane layak nahi hai. Wo khud JPSC 4th ka PT bhi nahi pass kar paye the. JPSC 4th PT ka 3 revised result aaya tha, par tino baar unka pt nahi hua. wo Bihar aur Jharkhand dono jagah aarkshan ka daava karte hai. Jo banda apne state me PT nahi pass kar saka wo dusaro ko clerk ke layak nahi samjh raha. K C Saha IAS hai wo bhawnao par nahi chalta. Unhe pata hai bhul kaha hui hai. Usi bhul ka natija hai Ajay Prasad jaise logo ka mains ho jana. Kai achhe logo ka mains hua hai, mai janta hun, par adhikansh moderation ke karan hi pass hua hai. Ajay prasad khud nam badalkar apna post karta hai.
niraj, ab aage kya hone wala hai kucch batao.
ORDER ON 29-07-2013
Mr Prabhat Kumar Singh, Advocate mentions
that he has filed an interlocutory application being I A No 5083 of
2013 for being impleaded as party respondents. It is on behalf of
the candidates who have been successful. Unfortunately, the final
result having not been published how they claim themselves to be
successful candidates. Learned counsel then submits that they
have been called for interview. In my view, they have absolutely
no locus standi in the matter as they have not been selected.
I A No 5083 of 2013 stands rejected.
http://patnahighcourt.bih.nic.in/judgment/pdf.aspx?ord=11&noc=15&caseno1=15423&yr=2011
sorry,niraj ji,yeah kaun sa mamla tha.kripya samanya bhasha main samjhane ka kasht kijiye.plzzzzzzzzzzzz
Ye Niraj singh pakka bhumihar to nahi hai aur ye rajput hi hoga.....khud to mains nahi pas ho paya aur dusro ke bare mein likhte samay sahrm bhi nahi ata hai...ek chota sa judicial exam bhi pas nahi ho paya....ye pakka arjun singh ya v.p.singh ka pota hai
New reservation policy quashed by Allahabad High Court today.
Nirajji aap bahut ajkal anap sanap likh rahein hein jabki aap mein praribha bilkul nahi hai...yedi phir se bhi mains hoga na tab bhi aap mains qualify nahi kar payenge take it granted
Nirajji yedi phir se bhi mains ka exam hoga phir bhi aap mains nahi qualify kar payenge, aap mein pratibha ko behad kami hai...bhale hi apke pitaji ek acche advocate hein to unka hath pakadkar aap bhi kuch kama lein....aap kabhi ye nahi sochte hein ki aapka 27 judicial exam mein kyon nahi hua....mere kuch dost wo exam pas hue aur unsabka mains mein bhi hua.....aap self introgation kijiye aap mein hi kahin na kahin kami hai
new reservation policy u,p me laagu hui hai.
jab ke bihaar ne new nahi balki apne old tradition reservation policy ko lagu kia hai.
bihar ne u.p ki trha kisi jaati vishesh ko laabh pahunchane ki koshish karne k liye kisi trh ki koi new reservation policy ka use nahi kia,
yeh apne puraane traind per qaym hai. na ise high court ka dar hai na supreme court ka.
per bpsc ki yeh naitikta hai ki woh lanbit pade maamlon ka samman karta hai.
log ise bpsc ki majboori ya koi fault na samjhen.
hme u.p ke case se kuchh lena dena nahi hai....
coments verify kar post karne me bahut der q karte hain ratish ji.
thora fast karte to kirpa hoti.......
sorry,niraj ji,yeah kaun sa mamla tha.kripya samanya bhasha main samjhane ka kasht kijiye.plzzzzzzzzzzzz
@pateljee,
Actually mains passed students had approached high court to become party in BPSC PT related case. But on 29th July, 2013, Justice Nanavatii Prasad said to passed students that they are not finally passed, hence they can not be made party as a successful candidates. Their petition was rejected.
thank u niraj jee
hello everyone.....I just want to say that the blog is not moving in the right direction because inspite of blaming the key player of all this mess i.e. BPSC, WE all are pulling each other leg.
Respected Niraj ji I am a great fan of your news as well as views but one thing that struck me was the way you criticised Ajay ji. I dont think failing in jpsc pt demarcate one as failiure everywhere. so pls restrain from such personal comments.
respected ajay ji you have tried to be moderate in your opinion but you have called fighter group as the looser group.I just want to make one thing clear that looser are never the fighter and fighters are never the looser. If the result comes and god forbid you are not selected even you will become a fighter. This is because fighting ability sprouts from deep conviction and self belief.
Now miss or mr. Lee..pls comment rationally and dont question everyone's merit because merit has no boundary and passing in a single exam does not defines merit.
I just want to conclude with a single appeal that pls restrain yourselves and inspite of throwing mud on each other say something about the main culprit i.e. bpsc which is responsible for everyone's ill fate.
nice comment by shivendra kr.
Bhai veer, maine jo likha hai wah mere shabd nahi baran Justice Navaniti prasad (29th July) ke hai. Justice ne spast kaha ki"Mr Prabhat Kumar Singh, Advocate mentions
that he has filed an interlocutory application being I A No 5083 of
2013 for being impleaded as party respondents. It is on behalf of
the candidates who have been successful. Unfortunately, the final
result having not been published how they claim themselves to be
successful candidates. Learned counsel then submits that they
have been called for interview. In my view, they have absolutely
no locus standi in the matter as they have not been selected.
I A No 5083 of 2013 stands rejected.""" Mai jo link de raha hun jakar waha dekh lo, tumhe pata chal jayega ki mere shabd shabdshah sahi hai:
click this link
http://patnahighcourt.bih.nic.in/judgment/pdf.aspx?ord=11&noc=15&caseno1=15423&yr=2011
niraj..
tum se 6t aug ke bad baat karuga,,uske pahle jitna bhi tmhe evidence dena hai de lo,,sab kuch accept karuga,,,
ab NIRAJ ke anusar dubara pt ka result aaiga...aur fir se mains ka exam hoga..ab to bhai,,PT hi cancel hone wala hai..moderation ko kaun puche..bhai NIRAJ,,abhi tumko jitna mehnat karna hai karlo..final keya hone wala hai..ye baat tumko achi trah se malum hai..after 6th aug...
6 aug k bad kya final result aayega veer bhai.ya pt wale case ka judgement aayega .plz confirm kare.niraj ka bhi link to unki bato ki pusthi kar raha hai.
sunwai hai aaj, tabhi sannata tutega.we hope somethimg happen well.
Reservation only for final selection, says HC
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TNPSC provisional list to select 80 Forest Apprentices quashed
Stating that the Tamil Nadu Public Service Commission (TNPSC) should apply the rule of reservation only for final selection, the Madras High Court has quashed the provisional list of candidates cleared for oral test to select 80 Forest Apprentices.
Reservation should not be applied while shortlisting candidates for the oral test, the court said. The selection was for the years 2006-07, 2007-08 and 2008-09.
Disposing of a batch of writ petitions, Justice S. Nagamuthu directed the TNPSC to apply 100-point communal roster for the selection process. It should treat the special reservation for women and Tamil medium candidates as horizontal reservations during final selection.
The petitioners, Ranjithkumar and others, were applicants. After the written examination, they appeared for the physical test and qualified. The commission published the list of candidates cleared provisionally for the oral test in August last year.
The petitioners stated that their names did not find a place in the list and contended that as per the selection procedure, they should have been called for interview. They approached the court questioning the provisional list.
By applying reservation for 80 vacancies, 170 candidates possessing forestry and non-forestry degrees were arranged on merit basis and summoned for interview.
A contention of the petitioners was that the rule of reservation should be applied only during the final selection and not at every stage; contrary to the same, even for calling candidates for the oral test, reservation had been applied. Thus, their right to participate was denied.
Mr. Justice Nagamuthu said that the notification and instructions should be understood in the context of Supreme Court judgments.
Since a clause in the notification which stated that final selection would be made only based on marks in the written examination and the oral test, the commission ought to have ranked the candidates only on their marks in the written test.
After holding the oral test, the commission should have selected the candidates on merit, i.e. on the total marks in the written and oral tests, provided the candidate had secured the minimum qualifying marks.
In the process, in case sufficient candidates as against the reservation groups, both vertical and horizontal, had been selected, then the process would end. If not so, then, the remaining candidates available (belonging to the same reservation category) alone should be called for oral test in the ratio of 1:2 and the reservation category’s remaining vacancies should be filled.
Obviously, the commission had not followed this procedure. In view of the settled position, it should be held that the rule of reservation should be applied only at the time of final selection and not at every stage.
The Judge said for short listing candidates for oral test and final selection, forest graduates and equivalent graduates should be segregated.
They should be subjected to oral test and final selection. After having made such selection, the remaining vacancies, if any, should be filled from out of non-forestry graduates.
Niraj Singh kitna chalak admi hai ...reservation wala case 2011 ka hai par pahle iske jawan se ek line nahi nikalta tha kyonki ye saheb PT pass ho gaye the aur mains ka wait kar rahe the ....ab jab mains mein nahi hua to lage hein ki phir se mains ho ......chit bhi mera pat bhi mera.....aise do muhe logo se sawdhan rahna chayiye aur samaj ko bhi aise logon se bachana chayiye......bhagwan kare aise logon ka kabhi selection kanhi na ho nahi to aise log gandagi phailayengeeee....Jai ho Arjun Singh V.P. Singh
Niraj Singh kitna chalak admi hai ...reservation wala case 2011 ka hai par pahle iske jawan se ek line nahi nikalta tha kyonki ye saheb PT pass ho gaye the aur mains ka wait kar rahe the ....ab jab mains mein nahi hua to lage hein ki phir se mains ho ......chit bhi mera pat bhi mera.....aise do muhe logo se sawdhan rahna chayiye aur samaj ko bhi aise logon se bachana chayiye......bhagwan kare aise logon ka kabhi selection kanhi na ho nahi to aise log gandagi phailayengeeee....Jai ho Arjun Singh V.P. Singh
pt wale case ki sunwayi kab hai?yadi pata ho to plz share karain
PT वाले केस की अभी hearing स्टार्ट नही हुआ है ....ललित किशोर जी दिख नही रहे हैं ...bpsc अभी तक कोर्ट में माँगा गया डाटा प्रस्तुत नही कर सकी है ....आज hearing होगा की नही यह स्पष्ट नही है अभी ...
PT वाले केस की अभी hearing स्टार्ट नही हुआ है ....ललित किशोर जी दिख नही रहे हैं ...bpsc अभी तक कोर्ट में माँगा गया डाटा प्रस्तुत नही कर सकी है ....आज hearing होगा की नही यह स्पष्ट नही है अभी ...
abhi abhi news aa rahi hai ki reservation wala case resolve ho gaya hai aur ab BPSC result dene ja hai hai aaj sam tak....thank u
aaj hai bhai,baki detail 2 baje k bad.
Today hearing didn't take place.
yar koi kah rha hai aaj kuchh nhi hai.kal hearing hai koi kah rha hai ho gaya majak ho rha hai bhai?yar sachai to batao
veer kuchh batao kya hua.
what happened in today case
aaj court main kya hua
Dear Friends pls Read the latest SC judgement of prashant ramesh chakrawar case .......... .....This is the latest Judgement(2012) of the SC on moderation issue.... so pls read this judgement in Detail...... Hope this will solve some of our curiosity ......... this is the latest judgment of SC so this Judgement is the LAW of the LAND OVER THIS MODERATION ISSUE PATNA HIGH COURT has to abide this judgement........................................................................http://www.upsc.gov.in/courtjudgement/exam/sl11977-78_2012.pdf.........................................................................................................or just read this operative part of the said judgement ............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... "The argument of Shri Tulsi that in the garb of moderation, the
Commission has resorted to scaling of marks and thereby deprived more
meritorious candidates of their legitimate right to be selected does not
commend acceptance because no material has been placed before this Court to
substantiate the same. The mere fact that some of the candidates like the
petitioner who cleared the preliminary examinations but could not cross the
hurdle of main examination cannot lead to an inference that the method of
moderation adopted by the Commission is faulty".
......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................this itself is sufficient to clear some of our doubts................................................................but i will suggest you all to read the judgement in detail.
@Anish
1. Chakravar judgment came in Feb 2013. BPSC copies already evaluated. BPSC didn't followed the six stages mentioned in Chakravar Judgment. As BPSC accepted in Justice Ravi Ranjan bench. BPSC accepted that no sample/ random answer-books was choosen.
2. Above 60% and lower 30% marks moderation is not the mentioned in Chakravar judgment and UPSC don't do that. This is null and void
3. Double bench of Patna High court has said make a law withing six months and until no rule is made, follow Sanjay Singh VS UPPSC judgment where scaling was justified via Supreme court judgment. BPSC affidavit clearly says that it has not made any rule, rule will be framed after final result. So bpsc has to follow sanjay singh order.
pata nahi ye bhi samajh mein ayega bequfon ko.....it is clear that the three Judge Bench had approved the
method of moderation adopted by the Commission.
The argument of Shri Tulsi that in the garb of moderation, the
Commission has resorted to scaling of marks and thereby deprived more
meritorious candidates of their legitimate right to be selected does not
commend acceptance because no material has been placed before this Court to
substantiate the same. The mere fact that some of the candidates like the
petitioner who cleared the preliminary examinations but could not cross the
hurdle of main examination cannot lead to an inference that the method of
moderation adopted by the Commission is faulty.
it is clear that the three Judge Bench had approved the
method of moderation adopted by the Commission.
The argument of Shri Tulsi that in the garb of moderation, the
Commission has resorted to scaling of marks and thereby deprived more
meritorious candidates of their legitimate right to be selected does not
commend acceptance because no material has been placed before this Court to
substantiate the same. The mere fact that some of the candidates like the
petitioner who cleared the preliminary examinations but could not cross the
hurdle of main examination cannot lead to an inference that the method of
moderation adopted by the Commission is faulty.
Dear friend Neeraj jee... .........As UPSC is free to opt whatever process commission wishes to adopt as per their requirements to assess merit of the students......so do BPSC and Other PSCs ...they are not bound by any particular set of MODERATION OR SCALING METHOD .....Process ADOPTED BY BPSC IS WELL WITHIN HIS DISCRETION AS IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL BODY SOLELY responsible FOR THIS KIND OF RECRUITMENT ............. ....................................COURTS WILL ONLY CHECK WHETHER THE PROCESS IS IMPLEMENTED PROPERLY OR NOT .........................................."THERE MUST HAVE SOME STRONG EVIDENCE OF MALAFIDE TO CANCEL THE MAINS RESULT" ................................................. 1.I don't think there is any merit in the claim that BPSC should follow that PARTICULAR set of formula for moderation (so called six steps ) .................................2 .For so called lowering of marks for those who got raw marks above 60% or increasing of marks of those who got below 30 % (?)process of MODERATION ITSELF EXPLAIN THIS ... in order to achieve uniformity especially among different subjects this is not very uncommon......................................................................................................................................................3 ..BPSC HAS FOLLOWED THE DIRECTIVE AS IT HAS ADOPTED THE MODERATION PROCESS WHICH IS UPHELD NOT ONLY IN SANJAY SINGH CASE BUT ALSO IN THIS RECENT CASE........................................................................................................................................AAP SABHI LOG JO COURT GAYE HAI I AM NOT AGAINST YOU PEOPLE ...i just want a speedy disposal of the case ................................. ........BHAI JO KARNA HAI JALDI KARE COURT ......................................................................IS CHAKKAR ME NEXT NOTIFICATION BHI NAHI AA PAAAIYEGA ....FIR ELECTIONS TAB TO AUR BHI LAMBA KHEECHEGA...SO BEST OF LUCK TO ALL and hope for speedy disposal of all these cases.....
koi hai?yha
http://patnahighcourt.bih.nic.in/CISCaseStatus/CISCASESTATUS.ASPX?CAT=1&TYPE=15&CNO=15423&CYEAR=2011&Digest=hIJZVk/dcSjT2Ys91qCQAQ
aaj hamara case number one pe hi hai aap dekh skte hai
http://patnahighcourt.bih.nic.in/CISCaseStatus/CISCASESTATUS.ASPX?CAT=1&TYPE=15&CNO=15423&CYEAR=2011&Digest=hIJZVk/dcSjT2Ys91qCQAQ
The Hon'ble Court (keval implementation hi nahi) process ki validity bhi check kar sakta hain aur process unfair, Unjust,Unconstitutional and Arbitrary hone par use cancel bhi kar sakta hain, EX- 2G License ka Example yaad kar sakte hain, License 2008 me mila, SC ne feb 2012 me license Quash kar diya aur fine bhi lagaya.........
Moderation karne me koi problem nahi hain...par agar isme satyata hain ki 60% se upar aur 30% se niche walo ka number hi kam/Badha (as applicable) to ye kis aadhar par kiya gaya hain.....koi scientific logic nahi hain isme.......
Sanjay Singh ke case me SC ka clear instruction hain ki Moderation preferably us Exam me apply karna chahiye jaha sare students ka paper common ho.Ex Judiciary ka Exam......Civil services ke exam me scaling ek manya prakriya ho sakti hain.........kyunki students different 2 subjects ke sath appear hote hain......
Kaun galat hain kaun sahi iska faisla to Court karegi aur hame us order ka samman karna hoga......ummeed karta hu jo bhi ho jaldi ho ..wahi sabke liye behtar hain.......
koi khabar hai.
kucch jujdgement aya, ki phir agle somwar ka intjar hoga.
BPSC won the case of PT. Justice said that process has reached at interview level hence, any procedure (reservation) will be followed from next examinaton.
thanx niraj
finally bpsc has won the case of pt reservation.........
kya hua fighter bhaiyo jo bich ka rasta tha wo tohua hi nahi
Ye to saaalaaa hona hi tha...khusi ka din h bhai. Chala mahaku bhanta pakane....ram kaho ji.
BPSC ab result nikalega ki,moderation wale case k bad.
situation under control,bhayyo..
kya hua ratish logo ki independency kyu chhin li.bahut bra ban gya?result ke bad koi blog pe ayega hi nhi
tu coment ko aproval k liye kyu rakhata hai yar
sare blogger pt me reservation ki tarah itihas ho gaye kya?ratish ji aap hi kuchh post kijiye.BPSC result nikalene ki taiyari kar raha hai.2-3 din me result aa sakta hai, nahi to moderation wale case k bad.
lottery group wale kaha gaye?...
एक तो कल ही चेयरमैन साहब को पटना बुला लिया था और एक आज बुला रहा है. एक कह रहा है आम सहमति बन गयी है. वाह अब तो बीपीएससी फोन पर ही मीटिंग कर आम सहमति बनाने लगा है ?
Khul k bol raha hu....lottery group me bhi 2 party h, ek 1100 ki Jo result k bad bhi bpsc k saath rahegi, dusari 1400 ki party h Jo fighter group join kar legi....Gaal bajayegi...chutar patkegi...bpsc ko gali degi...ajab khel hoga bhai, bhanta paka k...
please give me some information about bihar auditor examination
फेस बुक पर जितने भी लाटरी ग्रुप है उनके एडमिन ही रिजल्ट की अफवाह उड़ा रहे // अब आप समझ ले कि अगर ये गलती से प्रशासन में चले गये तो राज्य को कहाँ ले जायेंगे // कुछ एडमिन तो चेयरमैन को हॉकी से पीटने की बात कह चुके है. कई एडमिन की स्थिती तो अन्धो में काना राजा वाली है.
Hi Niraj ! Any update on moderation case status or it's still pending to higher bench? Any hearing date? Will BPSC wait for this case final verdict or it is authorized to announce final results in coming days?
AAP SABHI BLOGERS BHAIYON KO ANSARI KI ORE SE EID KI HAARDIK HAARDIK BADHAAI.
HM SEWAYI KHILANE K LIYE AAP SABHI KO AAMANTRIT KARTE HAIN.
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tumlog comment kyo band kar diye ho.result tak mahol garm rakho yar.
Status Pending for below two cases(Moderation):
CWJC-9569/2013
CWJC-9674/2013
Link to check status:
http://patnahighcourt.bih.nic.in/CISCaseStatus/CISCStatus.aspx
ye unknown muh kyo chhupa raha hai pt case k bad.samajhdar log samjh gaye hoge ki ye janab kon hai.
veer ji.
aap kahan gayeb ho gay bhai, aap bol rahe the ki 6 aug. ke baad sab ki bolti band kar denge. hm samjhe nahi the kuchho samjhaiyega.maharaj....
pt.ka revise result aur 20 october-2013 se naika mains ka halla tha.. kuchh bataiyega....
aap mains ki taiyari me lag gai hain ka......
result ke bare me koi pakki suchna ho to bataye jrur.
6 se 12 ho gaya lekin result nahi aya....
14 AUG KO RESULT,
AUR 15 AUG KO C.M DWARA GAANDHI MAIDAAN ME GHOSNA , KI HM NE 1000 ADHIKARIYON KI BPSC KE MAADHYAM SE BAHAALI PURI KI.
BHEEEEEEEETER KA NEWS HAI.......
Are bhai sahab.. ye mera pehla comment tha.. Apne profile me naam dalna bhul gaya tha... Main bas case ke baare me jaankari hasil karna chah raha tha..
kya hua mishra ji kis chij ka andolan aaj hua hai?
mahku ,mahkao mat,gamkao.ulta -pulta comment mat karo,kam ki chije post karo. moderation case ki kahani kaha tak pahuchi ye batao.
Mahaku(Urf Gamku) Ram: Are kuch bacha nahi kya likhne ko jo dusaro ke comment par cross comment karte ja rahe ho.. Agar koi information nahi hai to Bhanta paka liya karo..
Mahku ram mahkaye ga..
Bhanta Pakaye ga..
Toilet me baith ke khayega..
Aur phir Sabko Mahkayega...
hehehehehe :)
मैंने पहले ही कहा था - (फेस बुक पर जितने भी लाटरी ग्रुप है उनके एडमिन ही रिजल्ट की अफवाह उड़ा रहे.कई एडमिन की स्थिती तो अन्धो में काना राजा वाली है.)
कल एक एडमिन ने तो रिजल्ट आने की बात कह कर कई भाइयो से रात भर बीपीएससी की चौकेदारी ही करवा डाली और अपने घर में बैठकर मज़े मारता रहा.
बीपीएससी के चौकीदार ने कहा की बाबु आप लोग रोज़ आये लेकिन अब अगली बार आये तो साथ में खाने-पीने का सामान भी लाए.... साथ में, उसे भी लाए जो आपको यहाँ भेजता है ताकि मैं उसे "THANKU" (Thank You) कह सकू.
Information from Friends vai phone: It looks like result has been published by the BPSC Office, but it has not been put on the website yet. Server is down from yesterday evening. Those who are in Patna can go to the office as it has been put on the BPSC gate. Hoping it comes online soon and bring some smiles to few faces who are waiting for this moment from past 3 years :)
is anybody confirm his result. if result published at 5 PM somebody should have confirmation.
its there : http://bpsc.bih.nic.in/Advt/Final-Result-53-to-55-CCE.pdf
bhai kisi ka hua.......itne din se result aaj aaye ga kal aaye ga jab aaya....KISH KISH KA BPSC MAI HUA......MADAM LEE KA KYA HUA
Sab bakwas karnewale log the....hhh..
Beta anup prakash...ka hua re....result nahi aaya na.....bahut kavita padh raha tha...h...h...kam se kam mujhe congratulate to kar...h...h...apni kavita se...mera pyaar beta Anup prakash.
Beta ANUP. Tukbandi to koi kar lega....result sabhi k nahi aate....h..h...gad me ghus gai tukbandi.....ab tu laj pachane aayega,
Jhuthe roll no batayega,
Juta Sab log. Bajayega ,
Latkhor. Tu fir v n baj aayega.
dadicated....... To my son Anup prakash.
ye anup prakash koun haib bhiaya ..kabhi nam nahi suna ..ise kyon maar rahe ho bhai bhanta paka ke
centimeter to fiir se lag gaya hai paisa ugahne me , i baar to interview-an log se sun rahe hai ki das das hajar vasul raha hai . lage raho ulluon ki kami nahi hai ,bhanta paka ke
kidhar muh kala karva rahe hain fighters kahan gaye sab ke sab
First of all congratulations to every deserving candidates....i cant say about everyone who got through because every sort of malpractices has been adopted by BPSC to declare this result. This result is not at all genuine as the shining example of it is the case of saurabh suman who failed in the PT but got 32 rank in the final result. He has been allocated DYSP post. You can find this news on polyeyes
http://www.polyeyes.com/Article/PT-Failed-Candidate-gets-DYSP-Post-in-the-final-result-of-BPSC-Examination.
So all the big mouth people who has been cursing fighter group can they prove their genuineness?
shivendra ji uska nam SURABH SUMAN HAI AUR WO EK LADKI HAI USKA SELECTION BCL CATEGORY ME HUA HAI
agreed bro...but just go through the news she didn't even cleared pre as she scored 93 marks and the required marks for passing pre for her category was 96 as mentioned in category no 5 to which she belonged.
so how can this selection be justified?
is there any update regarding moderation case? please reply
दोस्तों अब नहीं सही जाती ये जिल्लत . मुझे आज भी याद है बोर्ड मेंबर्स का वो संतुष्ट चेहरा जब मै इंटरव्यू देकर निकल रहा था . मुझे उसी समय यकीं हो गया था इस बार मेरी नैया को भगवन ने पर लगा दिया है . . पर 16 की उस मनहूस रात जब मैं आयोग के गेट पे चिपके रिजल्ट में अपना नाम खोज रहा था तब जा कर मेरा सपना टुटा.
मित्रों मै उन 1600 दुर्भाग्यशाली कैंडिडेट्स में से हूँ जो bpsc का इंटरव्यू दे कर फेल कर गए. लेकिन आपको बता दू की ना जाने क्यों मेरा दिल इस रिजल्ट को स्वीकार नहीं कर पा रहा है. मेरा इंटरव्यू बहुत ही अच्छा हुआ था. मेरे विषय इतिहास और LSW से जम कर पूछा गया था और मै निश्चिन्त था की मुझे 972 में से कम से कम एक पद जरुर मिलेगा.
मेरे दोस्त ने मेरा सहस बढाया और कहा की bpsc में तो ये सब चलता ही रहता है सुना है अभी भी कोई केस चल रहा है , तब मेरा दिमाग ठनका की कहीं मैं किसी धांधली का शिकार तो नहीं हो गया हूँ . तब मेरे उस दोस्त ने मुझे clc में पढ़े एक उसके दोस्त से मिलवाया इस सज्जन से मिलने के बाद मैं फिर से उर्जा से भर गया हूँ. he is pass out from central law college, delhi. क्योंकि उसने मुझे असंख्य कानूनी दावपेंचों के बारे में बताया पर उसने मुझे से एक शर्त रखी की मैं उससे सब बातें सच - सच बताऊँ ताकि किसी भी स्तर पे मेरा मुकदमा कमजोर न पड सके .
उसने मुझे ये भी बताया की अदालत में जूठ कभी टिक ही नहीं पता अगर हम सच पे टिकें रहें दोस्तों तो इसी bpsc को हमारे साथ इंसाफ करना ही होगा तिन -चार दिन में मैं पटना पहुचुन्गा और मैंने ये मन भी बना लिया है पटना हाई कोर्ट को छोर सीधे सुप्रीम कोर्ट ही जाना श्रेयस्कर होगा क्यों की ये निपटारा जल्द कर देगी और इसका प्रभाव भी अधिक है
मैं किसी ऐसे ग्रुप से भी नहीं जुड़ना चाहता जो पहले से किसी केस को लड़ रहे हैं क्यों की मेरे पास खुद इस केस को लरने की क्षमता है. मैं सिर्फ उन लोगों को साथ जोड़ना चाहता हूँ जो की सच्चाई के साथ मेरा इस मुक़दमे में साथ दें.
अतः मेरी सभी उन दोस्तों से विनती है की अगर आप भी bpsc मैन्स पास हुए थे और फाइनल सिलेक्शन से वंचित रह गए तो हम सबको साथ साथ चल कर देश की सुप्रीम कोर्ट से अपने अधिकार की फ़रियाद करनी है. ये सच की लराई है और इसका परिनाम केवल और केवल जीत ही होगा.
हमारा केस सुप्रीम कोर्ट में बहुत जल्द और बिना किसी दिक्कत के फाइल होगा क्योकि मेरे बहुत घनिष्ठ दोस्त जो एक नामी वकील के असिस्टेंट है उसने अपने बॉस से मुझे मिलवाया है और वो ये केस लड़ने का वादा भी कर चुके हैं. आप लोगो को सिर्फ सच्चाई का साथ देने की हिम्मत होनी चाहिए वो ही बहुत है. आप सब , हम सब मिल कर इस दिशा में एक सार्थक प्रयास कर सकते है की हमको न्याय मिल जाये.
yours faithfully,
shashikant
MOBILE- 08173869312
बना है शाह का मुसाहिब, फिरे इतराता [ मुसाहिब = comrade/associate ] एक म्युनिस्पिलटी वाले भाई साहब का यही हाल है ..कहते हैं सफलता सबको नही पचती ..अगर ऐसे ही अकड़ते रहे तो म्युनिस्पिलटी की नालियों की सफाई कैसे करोगे भाई ..वहां ठीकेदारो से गालियाँ ही सुननी है आपको
Kya jamana aa gaya hai. Aaj ke bete baap ko bhi beta bana dete hain aur gadhe ko baap. Mr. Mahku ram. For your Kind information, my brother got selected and got R.D.O. To mahku ram, kripya karke apne hage ko aur mat mahkaiye aur agar sunghne ka itna hi man ho to Hag kar naak ke niche latka kar ghume...
Waise to maine pehle hi kaha tha. Result Mera nahi mere bhai ka aane wala tha.
Mahku ram mahkaye ja..
Bhanta Pakaye ja..
Apne Guh ko pocket me chapye ja..
Mauka mile to sunghte ja...
Hehehehe
Anup ji, ye chaupaiyi hasya ras ki thi ki vibhats ras ki. Jara apana sab kuch khol kar samjhaye.
@Raja: Maine to ye chaupaiyi Hasya ras soch kar likhi thi. Agar Mahku Ram ise padh kar musukura de to maan loonga meri Hasya Ras successful rahi.
Agar wo naraj hue to maanunga, unke liye ye Vibhats ras thi.
Ye vatsalya ras ki kavita h...ha..ha.. . Chhote pe hi to mujhe fakra h warna anup to pura suar nikla, goo kha k hi maanta h..ha..haa...chhote se kuchh Sikh bete..h..h...
Kyun Mahku Ram, mujhe bhi apne biradari me dalna chahte ho. Maine kaha tha itna guh na khaya kar. Dekha ab itna mahakta hai bhanta paka kar ki khud bhi MAHKU RAM hone me GURV hone laga hai..
Khair jab sunana tha to suna nahi, ab mahkte rahiye pure zindagi bhar.
Ek baat aur Mahku bhai, maine aapki suar biradari ko kabhi bhanta pakate nahi dekha. Ye kya gupt gyan kaha sikha?
Beta , baap ki biradari se alag ka kaise ho sakta h....ha...ha...so tumhe to mere jaisa hona hi tha...
Ab raj ki bat bata dun....ki ye bhanta pakana aur goo kahna kaha se sikha tha maine....Teri mami se bete...wahi sabse pahale bhanta aur goo lekar maayke se aayi thi...ha..haa....haaa.....
are mahaku ram uff prakash lal yeha bhi tu chalu ho gaya 6ka khi ka,bpsc ki kabhi kandan mai bhi koi surat dekha tha,sale chandal khi ka namm kitna change karta hai re 6ke
Are Mahku, kuch to Sharam kar. Band kar ye sab, Kyun apni aama ki itni badnami karwa raha hai... Band kar aisi Zalalat bhari baaton ka daur.
Mahku N Family:
http://www.vnesin.com/photos/nikaragua/images/Pigs%20Family.jpg
अपने हक़ के लिए आगे आये....
BPSC द्वारा आयोजित 53वीं-55वीं सिविल सेवा परीक्षा में हुई धांधली के खिलाफ हमारी लड़ाई एक निर्णायक मोड़ पर पहुँच चुकी है और हमारे केस की अगली सुनवाई पटना हाई कोर्ट के डबल बेंच में 01 अक्टूबर 2013 को होनी है. मित्रो हम अपनी जीत की ओर अग्रसर है. अब आप सभी का सहयोग और आपसी विचार-विमर्श अपरिहार्य है. इस हेतु दिनांक 29.09.2013, रविवार, अपराहन 4:00 बजें पटना कॉलेज के कैंपस में एक मीटिंग रखी गयी है. बड़ी संख्या में आप सभी की उपस्थिति अनिवार्य है.
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